Why South Koreans are entitled to rage upon the coast guard incident

| December 16th, 2011

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Starting from Dec 13rd, South Koreans groups have been protesting in front of China embassy for 3 consecutive days because of the death of a coast guard resulted by Chinese fisherman. While some media manipulates the incident as “rightful defense” of the accused fisherman and depicts South Koreans as narrow-minded and over-reacting ethnicity, the majority of mainstream media in China remain cool-headed and manages to present the in-and-out of the whole incident. Here is a good example from Netease who approaches the problem in the following 3 aspects:

1. Chinese fishing boats trespass into Korean water way too often.

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Chinese trespassing illegal fishing record from 2008 – 2011:

  # of trespassing boats # of arrested people ¥ of fine
(million RMB)
2008 432 103 34.5
2009 381 130 27.66
2010 370 56 39
2011 471 58 63

The South Korea side of the Northern Limit Line(NLL) in the Yellow Sea is known for its fish abundance, especially productive of portunid, flatfish and shellfish. The area used to be the traditional fishing area for fishermen from China, South Korea and Japan. Prior to 2000, Chinese fishermen didn’t go to the area in groups, nor was there conflicts between traditional fishing Chinese fishermen and their South Korean counterparts as well as the officials.

Since the China-South Korea Fishing Agreement in 2001, fishermen of the the two countries are forbidden from trespassing into the other country’s water to fish, but Chinese fishermen kept breaking the rules. The sudden surge of heading to South Korea for fishing began around 2000, and the first intensified conflict took place on Oct 24th, 2003 when local South Korean fishermen association, threatened by Chinese excessive fishing activities in front of their water, organized over 60 fishing boats chasing after Chinese boats, which alerted the South Korean navy into dispatching 5 patrol boats. The raging chase didn’t stop until the patrol boats opened warning fire.

According to South Korea police department, there are 2196 Chinese fishing boats conducting illegal fishing within South Korea water from 2004 to 2008, during which a total number of 20896 Chinese fishermen were arrested.

2. Unstoppable trespassing fishing

According to Taiwan Central Daily, illegal fishing, once caught, would subject to a fine of up to 30 –50 million Korean dollar, which could reduce the fishermen’s family into ruin. Therefore, illegal fishermen tend to put up strong resistance against South Korean coast guards. It is said that throwing stones at approaching coast guards is the norm for resistance, sometimes even axe, iron pipe, sickle etc armed resistances were possible.

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To fight against the coastal force, Chinese fishermen learned to operate in groups varying from 4 boats to over 10 boats tied up to each other. This kind of alliance has once changed the cat and mouse game: On Sept 23rd 2008, 4 marine policemen from Mokpo marine police warship No.3003 were held custody by Chinese fishermen when examining illegal fishing boats. The 4 policemen were assaulted and released in the form of hostage exchange. Two days later, a marine police dropped to the sea and drown when another Chinese fishing boat was being forced examined by South Korean marine police. These two incidents caused huge stir in South Korea.

In the past 5 years, weapons like rubber bullet, tear gas can hardly fend off the trespassing fishing boats. South Korean press once criticized its marine force as “using weak means” for playing strictly by the marine law enforcement rules. South Korean marine police weren’t allow to use gun until 2009 when violent resistance got out of control.

3. The protest of South Korean is not unreasonable

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Judging from the cases of the past few years, South Korea is not trying to pick any fights by constantly detaining Chinese fishing boats, it is illegal fishing of the Chinese at the first place, they are just doing their job. Now that Chinese fishermen adopted violent resistance and resulted in the death of a coast guard on duty, lawful interrogation and sentence are only justice.

As for the days of protest by angry South Koreans, it doesn’t mean they are politicalizing a civil dispute. Since the coast guard was killed when exercising his rightful duty, the case can not longer be categorized as simple civil dispute.

On the other hand, in South Korea protesting is only a normal expression of citizen emotion. It is said that there are an average of 11,000 protests annually in South Korea, 85 times of which involved large scale of riot squads. They protest against Japan, against the US, against their new domestic policy, everything. Thus we shouldn’t over-decipher this one, it just happens to be China.

South Korean people do not necessarily know about the difficult living condition of Chinese fishermen, even if they do, they are not obligated to show sympathy. Suppose it is a South Korean boat trespassing into China water and stealing fish stocks from us, and by the way stab our coast guard to death, will us Chinese people feel more of the sympathy towards the difficult life of Korean fishermen than the anger towards their crime?

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  1. Huzhang says:

    Perhaps it is right, but this is really more a reflection of international politics. Netease can only publish something like that because of political relations with S. Korea. If the exact same thing had happened with Japan, this article wouldn’t be here.

  2. voiceofhomer says:

    They are occupied and conquered people, and surrounded by enemies on all sides, so what do we expect them to do.

    Protest forever and all they want, they ain’t ever gonna be free.

    • nulle says:

      maybe each Southeast Asian country should have new policy:

      IF you see any foreign (ie Chinese) ships in your waters (ie Vietnam, South Korea, Japan, Phillipines, etc), you have a right to sink the foreign ship and detain the crew.

      • voiceofhomer says:

        Good idea, now why didn’t anybody do that to the pirates in Somalia or Indian ocean?

        May be Chinese is a pushover and nobody will care.

        Can’t wait to see your dumb shit idea go ahead.

    • Jason says:

      “They are occupied and conquered people, and surrounded by enemies on all sides, so what do we expect them to do.

      Protest forever and all they want, they ain’t ever gonna be free.”

      in case you haven’t realised, the same reasons were brought up when ever China officials or people protested

      besides the only reason no one blew those fishing out of the waters for repeated illegal fishing is only due to the fact no one wants to offend a petty giant.

      that and leaders generally are rational enough to think before they act

  3. Jay K. says:

    If this was truly written by a Chinese “annie lee” this has got to be the most neutral and logical point of view written without nationalist agenda or bias.

    im not trying to be sarcastic, but from the news ive heard so far in ccav and daily news this is jsut being brushed aside like nothing happened. if i was korean i would be pissed also.

    • Voice of China says:

      Annie Lee has proved time and time again to be a very ‘confused’ individual.

      I think I’ll leave it at that…

      • Huzhang says:

        Dude, half of Hong Kong is like Annie Lee. Liberal and self-loathing as fuck.
        Don’t let it happen to you guys up north.

  4. Augis says:

    I’d like to see what Han Han could say about this incident.
    He is one of few rational people when it comes to nationalist sentiments in China.

  5. Mark says:

    Since China claims all bodies of water around it as its own exclusive economic zone up to the shores of other nations like the Philippines and Vietnam, it is only natural for Chinese fishermen to feel entitled to ignore S. Korea’s fisheries.

    If China had more investigative reporters they would go further than just explaining China’s treaty obligations. Chinese reporters would report on the relationship between Chinese fishing vessels and Chinese defense forces. Numerous incidents have come to light where the Chinese navy has used so called civilian vessels including fishing vessels as cover for aggressive proxy action against other nations and their vessels. The latest incidents have been with India, and Vietnam.

    Further reporting should be done to explore how much control the Chinese navy has over the movement and actions of its fishing fleets.

  6. Mark says:

    China’s despotic puppet Kim Jung il…just died.

    South Korea can expect more attacks as his son with China’s support seeks to shore up his image and secure the loyalty of the old guard.

    May Kim Jung il sicko burn in hell.

    • voiceofhomer says:

      Kim Jong Il, North Korea’s mercurial and enigmatic longtime leader, has died of heart failure. He was 69.

      China is free to take it over as another SAR.

  7. nulle says:

    why South Korea just let Kim Jong Sun attack Seoul and just respond with all-out counterattack?

    If China helps North Korea sending reinforcements or gear, it means China wants to take over the world (compared to their stated ‘defensive purposes’) since Chinese use the North Koreans as a buffer against the world.

    mainland Chinese people want the world to kow-tow to them.

  8. Unkwn says:

    First, Chinese fisherman illegally entered South Korea and killed and injured South Korean coast guard officers. The Koreans have the right to rage upon these fishermen. However, they also take it a step further and rage upon Han Chinese people. This is the reason why the Han Chinese are raging back at the Korean people. It’s not because the Koreans raged upon the fishermen, but because the Koreans are raging upon the Han Chinese.

  9. Mark says:

    The CCP has stated in writing that it relies on the massive number of overseas Chinese and ethnic Chinese as a sort of 5th column to be used to help China achieve its political, economic, and strategic aims.

    China expects all Chinese including those not born in China or holding a Chinese passport to show racial and ethnic allegiance to the motherland.

    Few people are aware of the degree to which the CCP propagandizes ex-patriots and attempts to exploit ethnicity through spying, and ethnic Chinese language papers and other media secretly owned and controlled by the Chinese government, which is why they can have hundreds to thousands of young thug cadre on the streets of Paris or San Francisco to bully any group that opposes the Chinese government.

  10. fenqing says:

    and you dont think fuijifilm didn’t steal xerox’s technology and then dumped them? you china haters don’t really have a life don’t you?

  11. Mark says:

    You mean he is not alive and hanging out with Elvis somewhere?

  12. Mark says:

    I had that dream with Saddam Hussein before the war. I hated that mofo. Had I know it would cost a trillion USD, and kill so many people no way would i have wished for it.

  13. Mark says:

    First we got Kim Jung il who looked like he was trapped in a 70’s discotheque with John Travolta and the Elvis Vegas lounge act.

    Now we got Jung-um going retro with the Mao suit and grand dads crew cut. The fat fucker cant smile as he is afraid of looking like the young scared punk that he is.

  14. dongshizhang says:

    i think politobastards would have been a more effective way to finish that sentence…

  15. nulle says:

    more than happy to provide some lead supplements to each of those ex-patriots as needed or assist each of those ex-patriots to some excellent free ‘hotel’ accomodationns (for life) called ‘California’…

    if you see CCTV reporters, be sure to help their nutrition with extra lead supplements.

  16. expatriot says:

    That’s true. You can’t trust Asians in America. They will always be loyal to their motherland. Look at how many Chinese/Korean/Viet/Thai restuarants are laundering money and sending it back home. They don’t even bother to learn english!

    Arabs and Africans are the same way with their indencency and disrespect towards their western host country. All they do is stink up the place with their corruption and bad hygeine.

    There needs to be more restrictions on non-White immigrants (especially Asians) because they could be spies or terrorists. We need to watch everything they do and even put them in containment if need be.

  17. expatriot says:

    so true. Those yellow apes have no sense of civility or decency. They are a bunch of backwards savages. Even God can’t save them.

    They are a cursed race which is why their skin is a brownish yellow.

    If it weren’t for the White man, they’d be like that shithole called Africa.

    All they are are a bunch of theives, liars, and stealers.

    I hope more S. Koreans protest China and it turns into war – then we won’t have to worry about those Chinks taking over the world.

    I’m happy to support gooks against chinks if it benefits the West.

  18. dongshizhang says:

    someone needs to take a stand against fish cruelty. if we dont stand up for the fish, who will?

  19. dongshizhang says:

    why dont you just start your own website

  20. Nam says:

    Add Vietnam to the list. They hate those thieves with a passion right now.

  21. voiceofhomer says:

    He can not.

    He is an one trick pony or an one hit wonder.

    He does the same old same old all the time.

    Hates evil cheating pinko CCP China, kills ugly greasy Chinese in his dreams every day.

    And everybody in his site would be talking as one and agreeing to each other.

    Nothing new to say in a few days but the same old same old.

  22. John says:

    Hey korean_guy, your little Dear Leader died. Waddya gonna do now? Who’s gonna help you hold your penis when you need to go pee? You need to spend your time finding a new leader, not yapping on like a little bitch gook about what the Chinese are up to.

    Get a life. Get outside and get some air. Fucking asshole gook.

  23. reading my mind? says:

    how.could.you.discribe.MY.thoughts.so.properly?
    every.sentence.is.so.true

  24. Jim Maport says:

    Han-Han is quite thoughtful and I would not discount his commentary on account of where he is from.

  25. Nam says:

    Korean_guy….you crack me up!

  26. Nam says:

    Wow John, the North leader died not the South so the South leader will hold his penis. Get your fact straight dumbass!

  27. voiceofhomer says:

    The Philippines has sent a second ship to a stand-off with two Chinese ships in the South China Sea, both Philippines and China claim ownership of the shoal off the Philippines’ northwestern coast.

    Philippines said that its navy boarded the Chinese fishing ships and found a large amount of illegally-caught fish and coral.

    Two Chinese surveillance ships then apparently arrived in the area on Tuesday, placing themselves between the warship and the fishing vessels, preventing the navy from making arrests.

    The stand-off comes as the Philippines prepares for joint naval exercises with the United States from the 16 to 27 April near the disputed area.

    The drills will involve 4,500 American and 2,300 Filipino military personnel, officials said.

    “The cooperation between the two armed forces manifests the unswerving dedication and commitment of our security forces towards a more stable and secure Asia-Pacific region,” armed forces chief Lieutenant General Jessie Dellosa said.

    Six countries claim competing sovereignty over areas in the South China Sea, which is believed to contain huge deposits of oil and gas.
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    OIL and GAS, that’s all Amerika wants.

    Just oil and gas, they don’t care if Asia is starving or poor, they only want your oil.

    And Korea has NO oil or gas but it has cheap slave labour.

  28. voiceofhomer says:

    A Philippine coast guard boat will join the country’s largest warship at the Scarborough Shoal, navy commander Vice-Admiral Alexander Pama said.

    The Philippines became a US colony after a brief war early last century, but the US maintained a presence on military bases.

    These bases , which included the famous Subic Bay naval base in Zambales, is almost a century of US military presence.

    A US official made suggestion earlier this year that bases could be re-established.
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    God damn Asian dumbass cocksuckers and whitey worshippers.

    Selling out to the westerners again and again, just like Burma and Taiwan.

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