“69 Jihad” incident, Chinese Internet users’ holy war against Korean pop fans

| June 11th, 2010

Recently, "69 Jihad" incident broke out in China. That is, hundreds of thousands of Chinese Internet users collectively scheduled attacks (spamming and condemning) on well-known forums and websites of Korean celebrity stars and their fans at 7 pm on June 9, 2010. The slogan of 69 Jihad was “NC don’t die, Jihad never ends”. (NC: 脑残 mentally ill, brain damaged) Now historically so-called “69 Jihad” is an significant incident of the Chinese Internet Culture conflict in 2010.

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Trigger of the War:

From Baidu wiki: The “69 Jihad” was triggered by a “trampling accident” in the Shanghai World Expo Korean Pavilion on May 30, 2010.

On May 30, Korean pop singer group Super Junior preformed at the World Expo in Shanghai. According to some information, they promised to give away 5,000 tickets, but portion of the tickets were provided to Korean tourist groups, so supposedly there were actually only 2,500 tickets to be given away. Because in the beginning Korea promised 5,000 tickets, but SJ’s (Super Junior) manager and SM Company knew there were only a few hundred tickets but they purposely spread the rumor of 5,000 tickets to attract SJ fans to go to the concert. Then not enough tickets caused people to be blocked outside and created the scene of SJ being really popular and Chinese people are crazy about them. In the end only a few hundred tickets were given away leading to fans’ violent actions. They started yelling and beating the armed police and volunteers who tried to maintain order. Some spitted at the armed police, one person even took off her clothes and accused the armed police of sexual harassment.

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This incident caused many injuries and even deaths. Even though the news was quickly blocked it still eventually leaked out and began to spread on the Internet. A forum post titled “Korean fans, don’t think no one cares about volunteers and armed police don’t have fans of their own, how dare you to spit, really want to spill the kimchi in your brain” appeared on Tianya and triggered public uproar. On the same night SJ official website was brought down by the Chinese Internet users. Then SJ’s fans went to the Korean Pavilion Website to apologize, and apologizing on behalf of Chinese people. This really set off the patriotic Chinese netizents to organize the “69 Jihad”.

According to the official "69 Jihad" website (translated by ESWN): "At 7pm on June 9, we will organize all patriotic Internet users at Baidu, MOP, Tianya, Sohu, Sina, Tencent, Renren, Hongke Alliance, Heike Alliance, the various hawkish military forums … to join our fight!!  We need all types of people to join in.  We look forward to seeing you.  This so-called war consists of making posts/comments to cause the targeted websites from being able to provide normal services.”

More speculations of “69 Jihad” translated by ESWN:

Because the "69 Crusade/Jihad" originated at the World of Warcraft website, an industry insider who does not want his/her name revealed said that the whole thing could be a publicity stunt organized by the World of Warcraft team.  June 9th was chosen because they were targeting the 9.57 million college entrance exam candidates.  Netease, which runs the World of Warcraft, declined to comment.

Another opinion was that this was a marketing ploy by the game websites 178.com to promote the AK platform.  The official website for "69 Crusade/Jihad" is "ak558.org" and it is also called Channel 558 at AK with appropriate instructions to download the software.

178.com has issued a denial about the aforementioned speculation.  178.com CEO Zhang Yunfan said that the recent campaign has put stress on their servers but they have not deleted the relevant channel.  Because 178.com has kept the channel while other competitors have deleted the relevant channels, people are congregating at 178.com.  Zhang said that 178.com has not done anything to make this event happen.

Last year, the Jia Junpeng affair also began at the World of Warcraft forum.  That affair was later show to be a planned Internet marketing campaign.

The battlefield report of “69 Jihad” translated by ESWN:

June 9th,2010

12:10  the AK 558 website was attacked by Korean hackers and is closed.  The command center for the Crusade/Jihad has been transferred to IS channel 558520.

16:50  Baidu has begun to "harmonize" the webmasters of the forums which support the Crusade/Jihad (including the Heike forum, the Hack forum, the Hongke forum, the Fujian forum).  These people have had their titles removed and their IDs banned.

17:10  The Heike Alliance announced that they are attacking Baidu because they want Baidu to continue accept registration at the Super Junior forum before war begins at 19:00.

17:30  The largest Korean shopping website was attacked by unknown hackers.  Its home page has been changed by someone said to be the "Chinese Hackers, Zhejiang division."

17:36  Someone who may be a technician at the 360 Security Company has accepted responsibility for the hacking incident.  He says that he wants to "compare notes" with the Baidu security team.

18:00  The Baidu forums are experiencing instability as a number of the forums have collapsed.  Baidu says that they are "undergoing emergency recover."

18:20  The Korean Super Junior forum is out.

19:10  Some members of the Hacker Alliance have successfully bypassed the registration identification system at Baidu.  But their posts have limited firepower.  Members of the Hongke Alliance have also bypassed identification and flushed the forum with posts without any opposition.

19:35  MOP has successfully used "human flesh search" to identify the real identity, mobile phone number, home telephone number and address of the Super Junior forum webmaster.

19:40  The membership registration system at the Super Junior forum has been compromised by the Hacker Alliance.  The Halo Team is leading the way to flood the forum.  Baidu is working to patch the flaw, but the Hongke Alliance is launching an attack to delay them.  Various other Korean websites are being attacked by Chinese hackers.

19:55  Status report
- 414 QQ "brain-damaged" groups related to Super Junior have been bombed out
- Hongke/Hacker have taken the official Super Junior website out
- Blood has taken the Super Junior Forum at Baidu out
- Music download statistics have been banned
- Renren’s Super Junior section is half-paralyzed.  A reporter refreshed the page at 21:30 and again at 21:31.  Within one minute, there were 42 more pages of new comments with almost identical comments about the Crusade/Jihad.

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Read more about “69 Jihad” on Global Voice Online.

Doodles of “69 Jihad”

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Survey says…

IFeng conducted an online survey on the root cause the “69 Jihad”, as for today:

1. Netizens’ patriotic act  72.5% (6985)

2. Netizens are “lonely” : loss of faith  18.2% (1754)

3. Network promoter’s publicity stunt  9.4% (902)

 

Korean media: “69 Jihad” is developing towards anti-Korean sentiment

Hahanzu (哈韩族) is a trend (type of people) formed in recent years in China, also called the “Korean Wave”. They have an alternative life style, appearance and fashion,  love Korean fashion, make-up, music etc.  As a result, “Korean goods” shop owners got rich, Korean language training courses of varying lengths have more students then ever; Korean restaurants are also blooming everywhere. Hahanzu is growing in China.

From DoNews June 11, according to Yonhap news agency, after China’s Internet users’ feeling of resentment towards (Hahanzu) “Korean Wave” have fermented, the situation are gradually developing towards anti-Korean sentiment.

June 9, afternoon,  aiming at Hahanzu, most of Chinese major websites appeared the slogan of “Brain-damaged do not die, Jihad never ends”, countless posts with this slogan  flooded all websites. Other than that, 10 websites including Korean government website and many Korean pop stars’ official websites were hacked on June 9th.

Korean Security Department said, Korean national Portal (http://korea.go.kr) was under 220 minutes of DDoS attack, and this attack came from 120 Chinese websites.

According to Global Times’ analysis, the attack may be related to a defamatory post “sweep all Hahanzu”.  One of the key person who launched the “holy war” Sister Mountain said in an interview that attacks on Korea’s websites was not Jihad’s original intention.

Sister Mountain said, the purpose of the jihad was to educate the Hahanzu because they were out of control at the World Expo Korean Pavilion on May 30 just because they wanted to watch a concert.

On May 30, tens of thousand of Korean pop fans stayed up all night and lined up for free tickets, but most of them did not get one.  The Anti-Hahanzu could not understand Korean pop fans’ behaviors.  On June 9th, countless anti-Hanhanzu articles were posted and Hahanzu also posted writings to fight back. June 9, just one day, baidu had 7,630 new posts with 200,000 clicks.

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  1. wow… I didn’t hear about this, it didn’t make the news here in the States.

  2. billy says:

    if only they had spelled ‘army’ correctly

  3. masterfu says:

    and that is how this whole nonsense happened

    what the fans and SM did was wrong, but what the chinese extremist did was also wrong, the extremist made this attack because they “love” their country and this is a revenge for the chinese race.

    DEAD WRONG!!!

    if they were during this for the good of chinese race, then why are they attacking international sites and making China looking bad to the forginers, i bet no one will like China more than ever after this incident happened, especially the South Koreans, these extremist are a disgrace to us, me, as a true living and breathing chinese who loves his motherland, will not do anything that will hurt China’s popularity internationaly

    so that is why im planning a counter hacking to them, not in the name of fans, but as a true chinese citizen, right now im gathering hackers across the world to hack the “Holy War” offical site, im also thinking getting the “Iranian Cyber Army” involved. If any one of you interested in joining me and help me, email me at banban230@hotmaildotcom

    thank you, greatly appreciated

    • Crystal says:

      You are not afraid to leave your email here?

      • no name says:

        hi crystal how are you lately.

      • masterfu says:

        nope, because i cant stand these “Holy War” dumbfucks, and i need a desperate hacker alliance to stop them

        they have their own Red Hacker + Dark Hacker alliance, and i shall create an international alliance to go up against them

        ironically, this will be interesting because the leader of both alliance is a chinese who loves his motherland, but we have two different views on how to love our motherland

        I believe that my motherland’s fame internationally will not be harmed any longer, i had saw numerous hatred comments on youtube about China, and now i am fed up with it. who is this to blame? chinese hackers. their attack on google a few months ago had left a big scar on China’s already damaged international fame.

    • Chinese in Japan says:

      To be laconic and lucid, I question your claim of being true Chinese. Do you have any idea of what you need to do be a true Chinese, and at least I don’t see that you are eligible for being a true Chinese. Admittedly, what those misanthropes did is a bit extreme. However, they did it for the country, albeit in a chauvinstic way. Don’t ever say you are representing Chinese, you are just feigning.
      Anyway, I am dammit sick of Korean asinine, bloated South Korean stars coming to China to fool Chinese people, and they don’t even apologize after creating a mess let alone clearing it up. Fcuk Korean dramas.
      Actually, I am not that insular or xenophobia, I just got pissed off, infuriated by what those people-the so-called Korean weave-left on the spot in World Expo. Koreans are everywhere in the world, just as Chinese, some of them are good while others are not. And I strongly belittle those Korean stars criticize China a lot while placing their hands on Chinese. Also Korean cultural invasion cannot be ignored; Korean government bans Chinese dramas and China should do the same.
      LOL, so you are quick to apologize and claim yourself as true Chinese. But before doing that, please see yourself in the mirror and do you really flow Chinese ancestral flood. Or all what you want to do is to disguise yourself as a cosmopolitan so as to make Koreans happy. If that is the case, you are contemptible!

      • masterfu says:

        hmmmm let’s see, what was my first comment on here about??

        oh right, me gathering international hackers to stop these “Holy War” dumbfucks, a true chinese loves his or her motherland, and will not do anything that will harm it, which is completely the opposite of these guys did

        do you even understand the consequences China will face because of this? now China’s name will be even more hated internationally. and chinese people outside of China will become a target of humiliation. if you dont believe it, go on youtube and go to any video about China and see the comments, you will see a lot of hatred comments toward China

        你不知道我的真实身份就别瞎撤蛋,好不??

      • Dave says:

        Chinese in Japan, if you misuse complex words in an attempt to seem more educated it can detract from your message and make you seem pretentious.

        Masterfu, whilst your patriotism may be well intentioned, a strong unified China is better than a fragmented one full of internal conflicts. You are of course free to express your opinions against the Jihad69 movement, but creating a rival group to them would be undermining China’s solidarity which in my opinion is not very patriotic.

        • masterfu says:

          my rival group will only attack everywhere that have something to do with chinese hackers

          the 69 jihad was organized by chinese WoW players and hackers, my intention is not to go up against just the 69 jihad, but also opposing all chinese hackers, they are defacing China’s international pride

          no one else is really gonna stop them unless someone created a rightful hacker group that only hack websites that is related to chinese hackers

      • Vasopressin2010 says:

        Chinese dramas and songs are not banned in Korea. Its just that no one in Korean watches them.

        No one watching = low popularity = Chinese shows canceled/not shown on Korean TV.

        Im not being rude or anything but Chinese dramas are really boring. The martial movies are over the top, ridiculous and unrealistic. Most Koreans would rather watch MMA rather then fake Chinese kung fu movies. And the music is awful. I really cant stand the Chinese language. It sounds really awful when two or more people are speaking it. Sorry but thats just the way it is.

        • masterfu says:

          you mean, those hong kong garbage kung fu movies?

          yea no one in mainland China likes them too, most of them dont even watch TV

      • Koreansentry says:

        hard to believe this is coming from Chinese claimed to be in Japan. Anyway, you just reveal your insecurity side. Korean govt doesn’t bans Chinese dramas, Korean state run TV station aired Chinese drama “San Guo zi” last year but received zero rating from Korean audiences and they drop the program.

      • reafewa gafewaf says:

        Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a
        garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a
        pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach
        sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped
        out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

        I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you
        begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,
        leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

        Shut the fuck up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut
        to ribbons, and your throat slit.

  4. Eason says:

    So was it a few hundred tickets, or 2500? Big difference.

    Both the crazy K-pop fans and the Chinese internet “hawks” are fucking braindead. The hackers more so.

  5. HahanzuLoveToTakeItUpTheAss says:

    these chinese who love koreans are just dumb teenage fangirls, many western foreigners have the same love for japan, the are called weeaboo’s. sure, these are hahanzu are dumb and probably deserve to be executed by the CCP as traitors, but they’ll grow out of it eventually when they start maturing into adults. they are still kids and kids are known for having poor taste for commercial culture. Its just a matter of time before china starts mass producing these crappy teenage boybands and crappy teenage drama’s of their own with cute mainland boys n girls just like korea or taiwan or japan. then there will be no need for hacking SJ sites.

    • Eason says:

      It will be a great milestone for China when they are able to produce pop culture products to rival the other big asian countries.

      • Wang Er says:

        China already has plenty of ‘pop figures’ that rival those not only in Asian countries but also western ones, in terms of number of supporters. No surprise about it since this is a big country. It’s just that most of them are not well internationalized so people who don’t pay attention to Chinese news or live outside the country don’t know. IMO, the population of K-pop fans is highly exaggerated. 5000 supporters in a country with hundreds of millions of teenagers? I agree with HahanzuLoveToTakeItUpTheAss here that the kids will eventually grow out of the poor taste for commercial culture.

        As to this incident alone, it has been sensationalized by media. There were rumors reported as facts by Hong Kong and Taiwan media first, such as “trampled to death” and “video of armed police rushed to the site frantically”. Their initial intention is to put some negative lights to Shanghai Expo but when the rumors spread to mainland, it combined with a strong anti-Korean sentiment and became what you have seen in this ChinaHush article. How strong the sentiment is? The anti-Japan one looks like a honeymoon compared to it.

        • MAC says:

          I think he meant rival in the sense of “being good,” not popularity in China.

          • Eason says:

            Yes, nobody actually likes Zhi Shang Li He. China hasn’t had a popular singer since Wang Fei.

            • b-real says:

              Wang WHO????

            • Wang Er says:

              Again, ‘being good’ is relative and defined differently among countries. This is especially true for songs due to language barrier, while less a problem for dancing, an area Kpop is especially good at.

              Btw, what’s zhi Shang li he?

              • lordofreimes says:

                Name one mainland star that earns more money/more popular than a HK star or Taiwan star.
                Don’t get into some one country bullshit.
                The differentiation is simply in terms of industry maturity and their ability to market themselves. The mainland music industry is a mess.

                • Wang Er says:

                  Both Hong Kong and Taiwan belong to the Cpop domain and most of their stars’ activities/income are in/from mainland China, so it’s justified to call them Cpop artists. There’s no need to bring politics here.

                  • lordofreimes says:

                    Did you even read my post?
                    Part 1 asked you to name one mainland star that is popular than HK/TW.
                    Part 2 told you not to classify them into one country therefore equals one music industry (because you know just as well as I do there aren’t)

                    You are the one who brought in politics when I clearly told you to avoid it (and then use it as an excuse to classify them under an umbrella)

                    So I don’t have to repeat myself again, I will clarify what I mean by music industry :
                    Both Hk and Tw have their own official and semi-official music charts, whereas China has none.
                    HK’s industry is more reflective of a western type pop – more solo artists, greater hip hop/electro/synth.
                    TW’s industry, apart from their mega stars like Jay Chou/Jolin/SHE, operate more like the Korean/Japan industry – they have boy bands/girl groups and solos that cater to the ‘otaku’. (eg yaoyao)

                    Pop music is more about flair, artistry, and marketing than it is talent. In that respect, a star’s popularity lies more on their agency and managers. As I have laid out above, TW,HK and mainland all operate independently regardless of where their income is from.

                    • LOL says:

                      Why should he listen to your ridiculous demands?

                      Greater China includes Hong Kong and Taiwan. There is no reason to separate them unless YOU who wants to be political.

    • Carl says:

      Ah, for your information, a good portion of those Kfans are not teenage girls. As in, older than 20. So there really was no excuse as to why they acted the way they did. But yeah.. I pity them, years later they will look back and spit at themselves the way they spit at the cops and volunteers on that day.

    • Jason says:

      ANYTHING FOREIGN IS LIKE GOD TO THOSE NAIVE AND TRENDY TEEN/YOUTH.

      DON’T THEY KNOW THAT THOSE KOREANS LOOK DOWN ON US CHINESE OPENLY? I WOULD NEVER DATE ANY GIRL WHO’S FOOLISH LIKE THAT. WANNABES.

      HAVE SOME SELF-RESPECT AND DIGNITY!!!!

    • Koreansentry says:

      FAILED. ;> Seriously you need to show more maturity.

    • reafewa gafewaf says:

      remove yourself from the gene pool, fucking dumb idiot

  6. Eidolon says:

    I could care less about the SJ fans, but the Hackers Alliance intrigues me. It is a powerful form of internet mobilization and I am surprised that they were able to get so many sites to participate. If a broad, connected community is developing between China’s 300 million internet users, that can be a good thing, even if it doesn’t seem so right now.

    • masterfu says:

      do you want know why they were able to get many sites to participate? because the news had spread so quickly, and chinese people loves to go on the internet for many many hours. so that is why this is how this allience started

      but never mind that, you saw my comment, im starting my own international hacker allience so i can put a stop to this nonsense, because this is what a true chinese do, do everything to protect my country’s “face”

  7. eswn says:

    They don’t really mean “jihad” or “crusade” as the rest of the world understand those sensitive terms. Instead, the term is liberally translated as “sacred war” and is part of the vocabulary in the very popular game World of Warcraft. In WoW, one calls for a “sacred war” where in thousands of players gathered at a certain location and give up their “lives” for a “noble cause.” A famous example was when players committed mass suicide to protest against a guild administrator for his affair with a married woman in real life. Of course, players are resurrected but they have to spend time to re-achieve their previous statuses. Such are the sacrifices involved. In these reports, the terms “jihad” or “crusade” are being used because the English-readers has no context for “sacred war” without using footnotes to explain WoW vocabulary.

    • masterfu says:

      and yes, you know what, this whole incident was started by chinese WoW players

      as you read in the article, Baidu tieba is a forum community where people can create forums without the knowledge of PHP, but its not like one of those free forum server websites, there is no sections and moderators, only “webmasters”.

    • Key says:

      Thanks Roland!

  8. GuoBao says:

    Sounds like someone need to get laid. Sadly when you live under totalitarian conditions you tend to find other outlets for your anger than your government. You can see it everywhere. In Africa demonstrations with racial and nationalistic slurs against your neighbors, in the Middle East with rants against the West and in China basically anything the netizens can use as an excuse to get up in arms. The governments tend to support these actions more or less openly relieved that for now the people is bothered with something else AND it creates a misguided concept of unity that all those governments benefit from. The “Us vs Them” concept is the oldest basis of social relations.

    That said I think the Chinese government is doing fairly well in trying to put a lid on these anti-foreign movements and as for Hu and his friends? I’d much prefer them to Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong Il, Ahmedinejad or Lukashenko.

    So some lame Korean group reserved half of the tickets to Korean tourists and expats. Big f….. deal. They still handed over 2500 to the Chinese for FREE.

  9. aberid says:

    very few good people and lots of dogs in china…

    • nicodemus says:

      I know more good people than bad. You’d get a bad impression of the US if all you read about it was Youtube posts.

  10. Chris says:

    So China has its own “Anonymous” called C.I.A.? Out of misunderstood “patriotism”, that’s almost as stupid as /b/… but also good for some lulz…

  11. 刘俊逸 says:

    Im one of jehad’s armies~! We hate hahanzu.The fans in china even called sj as my big brother , my man … IT SUCKs ~!!! Who do they think sj are ? Their brother ,they man? My ass

  12. 刘俊逸 says:

    Ths fans even came for SJ , over to pray for sacrifices of Nanjing battue..~!!!

  13. 刘俊逸 says:

    Nanjing battue , which caused 300 thousands people died ~! SJ, how many guys they have ? Alive or dead ? Why they choosed SJ over the countless sacrifices??

    • 赵赋尧 says:

      pffff, as a representive of a true chinese citizen, i laugh at your little “Holy War”.

      remember, this is an american website, anything you say about your “holy war” on here is useless, because one people on here dont care and two they will 寂寞+围观 you, got it? dumbfuck?

      • 刘俊逸 says:

        管你鸟事 SB~!你自己滚

        • 赵赋尧 says:

          哟~~~ 一个成天只知道玩WoW的SB居然开始自己嘴硬了,啊哈哈哈

          我也告诉你,如果这次事件没有发生的话,你们WOW贴吧里的人会在干什么呢?在电脑前继续看黄片?或在电脑前继续谈论谁谁谁最傻B?或者坐在电脑前继续悲你们的剧或寂你们的寞?

          切,我看你们这些WoWer跟那些粉丝们也没什么两样,平时只在WoW吧里谈天说地,成天泡在电脑上,不管家人和国家大事,自理能力我看你们也好不到那里去,最后直到这个事件发生了后你们才以“爱国”的名义来打圣战,如果这事没发生呢?你们还继续在WoW吧里闷着?继续无视党和国家?

          人家当兵的至少有活干,而且是为了国家,像这种大事政府会必定处理的,不用你们这些傻B狗们来操心,你们操心只会让韩国与中国之间的感情恶略,最后导致世界和平的破坏。

          • Devin says:

            这种大事政府必定会处理?你是政府?
            第一:我不玩wow
            第二:我和我朋友攻击SJ网站不是因为WOW吧
            第三:我很少上WOW吧
            这只属于政治见解不同,你想我们在这大闹一架然后继续丢脸?
            我们学校也有韩国人,我也没有把这种政治见解映射到人与人之间的关系上。
            且不谈谁的责任,Trigger of the War 告诉了我们谁引起的这件事。
            你一不支持WOWER,二不支持那些粉丝,那你就是中立,对吧?
            那既然是中立你又何苦和我这种参加过圣战的人争论呢?那算中立?

            没必要谈对错,没哪一方全错或者全对。愤怒让人冲动,我和我朋友也是6.8号晚上了解到这事的
            。正好有人在组织圣站,然后想都没想就参与了。
            事后思考下做的确实有点过于偏激了。 我也和我的朋友感到抱歉。
            不然总有无辜的人受伤,心理上或者经济上。

            当然,你也可以继续骂我,不过我点到为止,我们不止是攻击了网站这么简单。有些事不能说的。
            好了,对6.9的反思也到此为止了,希望下次双方都冷静吧。对于之前对你说的一些话,希望你不要介意。 这只是些不同的政治见解的碰撞,没必要因此结仇。
            还有,masterfu 和你是一个号,我没说错吧。

            • 赵赋尧 says:

              你才知道我是masterfu啊,took you long enough。。。

              仇恨这种东西啊,是越闹越深,你们这些组织了圣战的人,就只是为了教训教训哈韩粉丝和韩国人们,但是呢,你们有没有想过,网络上一切的东西都不是以认真的态度对待的,在网络外,哈韩族们继续哈韩,韩国人们继续调戏中国,而且我估计现在他们会调戏的更严重了。

              还有,我当中立,但是我也要策划我自己的网络战争,不光是对你们圣战的,而且是对付中国境内所有的黑客,因为自从中国黑客们攻击了google,google里的工作人员们把那次攻击与政府联系上了关系,以为是共产党政府想要利用黑客来传播共产党理论和思想,所以就离开了中国,搬到了特别行政区香港

      • courtney says:

        What 寂寞+围观 stands for ? You are a mofo ? I care that at least.

  14. 查哥 says:

    不明真相的围观群众

    • 查哥 says:

      translate:
      I am a person who do not know about the truth and keep crowding around(english is so damn hard)

      • 赵赋尧 says:

        呵呵,我来告诉你真人翻译吧

        I am just an audience who does not know what is going on

        • 查哥 says:

          我这样字面翻译是为了突出英文很难学
          I translated it in that way aiming at sticking out that English is so hard..

          • 赵赋尧 says:

            现在我回想起当初我妈妈在2003年把我带到美国来还是有点用的,我可以教你们英语苦手们一些英语,毕竟我在美国已经呆了7年了
            ===============================================
            但是我可以肯定的说,这次事件两方都有错误,粉丝们是这件事的导火线。

            但是”圣战“份子们也有错,既然他们知道中国在国外的名声不好还继续伤害中国的名声,这次的事件已经太过分了,中国在国外的名声又被往下黑了一步,我可以肯定这一点,因为这个事情已经传出中国了

            还有,我就是masterfu

        • 3am says:

          I’ve translated this in google “呵呵,我来告诉你真人翻译吧”
          You mean :lol I’ll tell you translate it real ?
          You are a fYOUcking nut k ? Seems that you are saying : hey , I know english~! I can spell it~!

          CSLlllllllllllllllllllllll

          • masterfu says:

            oh wow you actually used google translator???

            i live in the US now k? i had been here for 7 years already so i know a lot more english then all other chinese people

            my english skill will blow your mind, my english skill is godly compared to other chinese people’s english skills, but still need more training compared to native speakers

            • xiao bai says:

              oh no!
              you were saying interesting things and then you suddenly become arrogant and the best english-speaking chinese…
              why… why master fu…
              we had such hope in you…

              • masterfu says:

                lol i actually are the best english speaking chinese among my chinese fellows

                look at how i typed in english and look at how other chinese type in english, you will see an instant difference

  15. malagebi says:

    What’s 6.9?

    69 ruined by a period.

  16. Amber says:

    This is so silly, its just music and tv shows.
    What the ppl did at the expo was wrong, but what the idiots did who hacked the websites was stupid.
    People are just people, who cares what country they are from??

    • masterfu says:

      we got the same thinking

      and as a chinese myself, i feel ashamed by these WoWers who are sitting in front of computers everyday and talking about WoW, and they say that the koreans fans dont know how to manage themselves, i guess these wowers can’t do that too

      im learning all about hacking right now, and my target is the WoW forum in baidu tieba, that is where the hackers started their “holy war”

      i hate WoW too, a stupid game that ruined Blizzard, Blizz should focus on Starcraft 2 instead of making a game called WoW that no one really plays for more then a month

  17. 刘俊逸 says:

    In fact , I should call it Interior Business~! It just likes : A bad guy teached our own children in a wrong way outside , and children’ve some bad changed in that way , then we just gave them a lesson. Is that our fault ?

    All I have to say is : Korea deserve that ~!!!

  18. Devin says:

    Sorry , my team had taken down a site of korea . So , I think jihad is right in china. Chinese K-fans are so fucking crazy , I have to use that word to describe them sorry.

  19. Devin says:

    All you guys , just think about it as this happened in your country . Don’t judge from a piece of news. You need to know why . We are not going insane. Chinese love peace , we will never set out kind of Jihad for no reason ~!

  20. Vasopressin2010 says:

    So wait a minute. According to this story-

    Chinese girls riot and attack Chinese police officers because the Shanghai expo run by Chinese workers did not plan the entire event efficiently. Then, virgin Chinese WOW addicts retaliate by attacking Korean websites and blaming Koreans for the entire incident.

    Dont you just love those Chinese people? Whether it being creating fake stories about Koreans stealing Confucius or blaming all of China’s problems on Korea. Its now hip to blame Koreans for everything, including China’s bad behavior and manners. Thats right folks, whenever a Chinese person throws a tantrum and starts attacking people for no reason, its Korea’s fault.

    You use to be able to find people in Korea who defended China. Nowadays everyone hates them. I wonder why? LOL.

    • Devin says:

      I didn’t say it’s korea’s fault . We think they should not attack police officers. They ignited the fire at first , we just wanted them to know. This is what they will get to be crazy.
      As a warning. I don’t support jihad all,but there must have someone stood up to punish them for what they did. So if this gives you a bad impression , Sorry we have to .

      • Vasopressin2010 says:

        Your reasoning astounds me. Chinese women attack Chinese police officers because a Chinese event didn’t offer enough tickets to those Chinese women. Then, we have a bunch of angry Chinese virgin males attacking Korean sites even though it was the misbehaving of those Chinese women who caused this stir.

        Its obvious that you fenqing are blaming Koreans for this. Seriously, grow the hell up. If you want to blame someone, blame those girls. And while you’re at it, blame those WoW losers for making China look stupid. Pretty much everyone in Korea hates China now and for good reason. Not only that, but the people who follow Korean culture all across China hates China even more to. China just made it self look really ugly all across the world. As if the hacking of google wasn’t enough. China continues to make itself one of the most hated countries in the world.

        Oh but thats right, its entirely Korea’s fault that China is hated, right?

  21. Devin says:

    We also have fault too , but we were angry for that . I have to say sorry , I mean it~! But those fans were crazy for SJ . So we looked for SJ . Those fans’ve done too much , then we had . I don’t wanna see this okay ? I wanna see chinese and korean get together as friends . Crazy makes anything worse. Now I guess korean think we are crazy , and we think korean are ridiculous . Sorry , those fans pissed off us.

    Everyone hates them ?No , not everyone gets into deep . Some guys still think we were wrong for setting up jihad . But we have to be wrong, we just can’t sit in sofa and do nothing .

    But now I’ve thought of it many times , we were wrong , but it’s not all wrong ? We’ve defended in a wrong way.

    There’s still one thing I can’t stand , those fans call SJ as 哥哥、我的男人 such things. “哥哥” means Blood brother , “我的男人” means my man. It seems these SJ members have some relationship with them ..Such a idiot

    • 赵赋尧 says:

      她们是以韩国的敬语方式说的,因为在韩国里,所有比男孩子们小的女孩子都要叫“哥哥”,陌生人中间如果不认识的话也用敬语。

      因为她们做为哈韩族,就学了韩国的敬语,但是在中文里就直接是哥哥了

      韩国里总共有四个敬语:
      oppa:这在韩语里是哥哥的意思,而且是给年龄小的女孩子们用的
      nuna:这是给比女孩子们小的男孩子们用的,姐姐的意思
      hyeong:这也是哥哥的意思,但是是给男用的
      eonni:也是姐姐的意思,但是是给女用的
      然后哥哥和姐姐叫ta们的弟弟妹妹们直接用名字

      忠实的明星粉丝们有一种同样的幻想,就是与ta们的偶像们结婚过上夫妻关系的生活,我也有自己的偶像们,而且我也有过这种想法,但是最后我知道那是不可能的,除非跟明星面对面的见面

      • Da says:

        你这个操蛋的杂种SB人,不要说自己是中国人 幻你妈的想 , 你这个SJ FANS , FUCK YOU ALL~! 你怎么不把你卖韩国去啊~?

        • 赵赋尧 says:

          第一,我不是一个SJ粉丝,我也不哈韩

          第二,我个人住在美国,而且美国这里有很多韩国人,也有很多中国人和日本人,三个亚洲大国的仇恨在美国里没有,我们都是朋友,我也顺便可以学点韩语,难道这我就哈韩了?我还在学日语呢,难道你们也说我哈日?美国里我可以随便的学外语,不管它是哪个国家的,而且,白人黑人把我们全部都以亚洲人看待,如果发生纠纷也就是白人黑人与亚洲人的冲突了。

          其实呢,如果我要是真的想直接点评论你们,我可以把你们评论为一群种族歧视的傻B狗们

  22. Devin says:

    But what could we do ? Find everyone who was crazy for SJ and did these things ,then kick their ass ? We were forced to do this , although it’s wrong someway.
    I feel bored to discuss this , right or wrong , you will be the judge. I gotta say : I would love to be one’s friend without any politics.

  23. Karah says:

    But asians are known to be psycho fanatics all around…sooo you have no one to blame but ur own people…whether it be Chinese or Korean.

  24. Devin says:

    I guess you think we need to keep cursing them uh, but , will that work? They love SJ over their own country sometime. What should you call these guys who love something over his/her own country ? (btw,loving party and loving country is different)

  25. Devin says:

    And I just hate these K-starts , not for korean

  26. masterfu says:

    Davin, i say you are an idiot

    China is not the only country that have SJ crazy fans, US have them too, so it everywhere else

    you guys need to understand that this world is an open society, all cultures are welcome in other countries, and i also understand that the fans had waited many hours to get in, but they didn’t, so of course they are angry

    but you guys were wrong to organize such a thing, such a thing will only complicates and worsens China’s international impression in foreign countries, and im pretty sure if this incident happened in other countries, citizens there will not organize a hackers attack because they knows being a hacker and attacking websites is wrong. Instead, they’ll wait for the government to take care of it

    also, i say this to your fellow jihad soldiers, if you guys “love” the motherland, why don’t you guys try your best to make China look good instead of going around attacking websites. if you don’t know already, China right now is known as a country filled with communist ideas and full of hackers to foreigners, why do chinese hackers hack google many monthes ago? and why did google moved out of China? i think you hackers know why

    • courtney says:

      It’s clear this masterfu idiot is one of SJ’s crazy fans.
      Most of these crazy fans got a pretty damn ass-reamed by SJ. And also for that , they’ve broken their brain in that way . why ? Their brain’s hidden in their ass.

      I feel so sorry for these freaking K-fan like masterfu. Have you got a doctor to look after your pretty-damn pathetic brain? Im worried about you~!

      • Vasopressin2010 says:

        I cannot understand the reasoning behind you brain dead 69 jihadists. Chinese women misbehave in China by attacking Chinese police officers because the Shanghai expo run by Chinese organizers did not offer enough tickets. Chinese hackers get angry at those Chinese women so they decide to attack…………….KOREAN SITES?

        In other words, Chinese women cause trouble in China. Chinese netizens retaliate against those women by committing crimes in Korea. Talk about stupidity. The only person I can think of who is truly brain dead would be you 69 jihadists. Quit blaming foreign countries for your poor manners and behavior. Its not Korea’s fault that you 69ers are losers.

        Had those same tickets run out in Korea, America, Japan, France, Britain, Australia or anywhere else in the world. The fans would simply leave. And if for some reason the girls of those countries misbehaved, the people in those countries would not have committed crimes in foreign countries.

      • masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

        courtney are you even chinese or asian at all? if not, get out of here, this is an asian thing.

  27. masterfu says:

    i feel proud to be chinese, a population that took most part of the world

    but i also feel ashamed to be a chinese, because apparently there is computer hackers in China that hacks foreign websites and destroy China’s international impression, then the foreigner’s misunderstood the hackers and connect them to the CCP, creating a hated feeling toward China

    我做为中国人,为你们这些黑客们感到羞耻。

    • 3ammy says:

      Don’t call yourself as a chinese , you don’t deserve that ~! 你感到可耻之前我们已经因为你们的行为感到无地自容了

      • Devin says:

        Yeh ,to the point , we would not have Jihad if those k-fan were not crazy

        • Vasopressin2010 says:

          Am I the only person here who finds it funny that a bunch of spoiled over-patriotic internet addicted fenqing hacker idiots believe they have the right to accuse a bunch of teenagers who listen to Korean music of being stupid?

          I wonder what goes on in their head. Probably nothing at all.

        • 赵赋尧 says:

          Davin

          there is plenty more way to teach the fans a lesson without using the jihad, like force yourself to go to South Korea and force the Koreans to apologize

          人家不让你们进韩国就把他们打昏,难道这点你们就做不到?在网络上弄点无聊的圣战你们以为人家韩国就在乎了?

      • 赵赋尧 says:

        我发现你们老是把我与那些粉丝们联系在一起。看来你们真的是没救了,以为中国现在要么就是你们圣战的人,要么就是一堆脑残的“粉丝”

        诶,中国里大部分人的素质我看也就低到这种程度了

  28. Devin says:

    三星的老板要求员工只捐10元的事你应该知道吧。
    对,我是idiot,SJ的一位成员在经过一个地震灾区后说:“当我来到这时我很高兴。”
    他们都代表韩国
    这次攻击不单单针对SJ,而是一个警告而已。
    所以我们也没办法,那些fans为SJ发疯,不惜损失自己国家的脸面,还攻击从地震回来刚救了无数中国人的武警。那好吧,我们也发疯,他们喜欢SJ,我们就去攻击SJ。以牙还牙。

    自己的孩子被“坏人”教坏了。我们不应该去找这个“坏人”的麻烦?

  29. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    其实呢,SJ里的成员们也可能是韩国的“脑残”

    某些明星们一般就是这样,挣钱挣疯了,就自以为是,到处乱说,
    周杰伦也是同样的例子,他说过:“我不是中国人,我是台湾人”。这个态度是不是很相像?

    问你们一下:如果把这些SJ粉丝们换成周杰伦的粉丝们,你们会怎么做呢?

    • Devin says:

      One of sj member said : I am very happy when I arrived there.
      I can’t find the link of that video now. But it’s real. I still remember the host was trying to explain the “happy”. But all the cameras had recorded that scene.
      Sj , samsung , and some guys who wanna say : Oh , we created Hanzi , oh, we created the world,and some crazy followers.
      These are I abhor. I was staying with the korean guy in my school and chatted with these mess. See , this 6.9 Jihad doesn’t trouble me with a korean guy.
      (别再谈谁对谁错了现在)wow吧里确实有许多SB,人云亦云 ,盲目跟风。或者真的被那个叫AK之类的语音软件的策划人员利用甚至被政府利用了都不知道。 就按目前形式来说,还有很大部分中国人因为讨厌SJ,讨厌韩国人,再讨厌韩国,再讨厌喜欢韩国种种东西的人。这叫多米诺骨牌效应,已经在一些地方泛滥了。
      也许中国缺少一位精通英语的鲁迅之类的人物.

      Don’t try to use google or other softwares to translate my chinese , you might get complex or mistake.

      • masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

        一群SJ的疯狂粉丝,再加上wow吧里的那群SB = 闹出了一件无聊的大事

  30. Devin says:

    “These are I abhor” I guess it should be “These are what I abhor” .. Sorry for my baddddd english , Im still working on it

  31. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    嘿嘿嘿,我保证你们,过了几个月后,中国里就再也没有人感惹起关于政治的事情了

    这就是做为“第三方”的强大

    来点我自己的脑残笑:啊哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈

    对,在某些事情和方面下,全世界的人都是NC,只不过是不同的NC,这个世界就是这么悲剧和无情

  32. zee says:

    acording to these news,what did SM do was wrong and the hackers did the most stupidest thing..i know they love superjunior as much as we do,but hacking the official websites,well,doesnt that made a start for korean to hate them?i know one thing,the suju wont even going to perform another show in china..but i know how will the suju react..they will apologize to the china fans..they only know how to take care the heart of their fans..i blame on the hackers the most,arent they enough to give the suju a pressure?they work hard and this what the fans gave them?a revenge??its also hard to sell tickets you know.f you want more then why dont you do it your self,make it 5000 tickets??its just a good thing that they are artist..if they werent they would break ur bones right now..artist arent allow to attack back to their fans instead they apologize them..i understand how it feels that they didnt get enough tickets but i know that they will perform another show for the chinese f they werent hacking the official websites..snap out of it!!DO YOU LOVE SUPER JUNIOR OR NOT?!IF YOU DO THEN WHY DID YOU HACK THE WEBSITES?

  33. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    @zee

    it’s no use now, chinese fenqings is too naive to understand how to do things the right way

    the condition in China right now is this:

    if you dont support the “69 jihad”, that you are a SuJu “brain damaged” fan, no second questions asked, even if they dont know if you like SuJu or not

  34. Sin says:

    Holy flipping fucks you guys need to chill.

    masterfu: It’s nice worrying about Mother China but don’t get upset over this bullshit. Don’t worry too much about international reputation from hackers. Seriously this shit happens all over the world. Fuck, American sites like 4chan got an even worse reputation internationally from raids lol. But I guess for /b/worst is good.

    Devin: Your intentions are admirable, but hacking korean sites isn’t really the best way to go about things. If everyone just said “oh well fuck it” and let it slide everyone wouldn’t spend so much time arguing over this bullshit. Those SJ Fans going batshit and causing a mess isn’t a national disaster, it’s just kids being stupid thats all.

    korean_guy: Look you seem to be a rational guy and its commendable that you try and set a neutral tone. I just think its sort of naive to say “oh i don’t like China since Chinese people seem to think asia belongs to them/cocky/blah blah”. Yeah you’ll find assholes like that in China, but I guarantee you can find the same assholes in Korea. In fact, I guarantee you can find assholes like that anywhere in the world from Japan to the USA to fucking Timbaktu. These people will always think their country is the best and is solely responsible for the advent of awesomeness. But they don’t represent the majority and they don’t represent the nation. I get that the negative aspects of China influence your views. But in my opinion, one should also balance them with the positive things to see the whole picture. Things become more enjoyable when you are less focused on bullshit.

    The entire article at most should just cause amusement. Anything past that then one should seriously contemplate calming down and going on with the rest of their day. That’s just my opinion though. I sure as fuck am not the internet five oh. You can keep arguing about this bullshit if that’s what you really want lol.

  35. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    @Sin

    i already had a better understanding of this incident, the jihad warriors want to get revenge on those SJ fans for the armed police, so the jihadist is on the armed police side

    which also give me some ways that i can get my hands on and resolve this,(no it’s not over yet, there is still aftermath) it involves some emailing, and some recruiting internationally. yes you guys can still tell that i didn’t give up on getting foreign hackers, but now im recruiting one more type of people internationally, if you are smart enough, then you should know. hint: SJ is not just popular in China

  36. Sin says:

    What I see happening is whenever some people do undesirable things, douchebags like you equate it to being a national characteristic. People who aren’t complete tools know this is complete bullshit, and that nobody in their right minds condones this sort of behaviour. Whenever some people in Korea fuck up and make fools of themselves, I could act like you, a raging faggot, and say “oh this is typical of Koreans. They’re like high school kids in an adult world and can’t think and act mature let alone responsible”. Or, I could NOT be a complete asswhipe and realize that these things don’t represent one entire country, they are problems are prevalent in EVERY nation. Nobody condones these undesirable behaviours, and they are not unique to one peoples. Maybe if you stopped touching yourself to your own pathetic-as-fuck LALA fantasy of being Saint. holier-than-thou-Korean douchbag, you could rejoin real life.

    Do you also seriously believe some Koreans have never dissed other Koreans for disagreeing with their point of view? It’s mind boggling the bullshit you believe in lol.

  37. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    ok you two you can stop now, this incident already are developing into a more complex thing, and if you are not ASIAN, dont get into an argument about this, okay?

    but South Korea do have a lot of misinformation in their education, like teaching kids that Korea used to be the dominator of Asia, that is wrong, before the Korean War, Korea is one country, and there is also chaoxianzu (Korean tribe in China), so the South Koreans think: “ohh yeah, if there is our own people in China, then that place in China must used be belonged to us” that is wrong, because Korea and Japan was a slave country to China during the imperial times, and everyone in China can prove that because ancient writings about this are already been found. it was later that the Korean emperor branched out of China and made their own country

    so yeah, if you guys think that we chinese people thinks that China is Asia, we are about 70% right, the other 30% are India, Laos, Singapore, Philippines, Cambodia, and all those not well known small asian countries, chinese people knows that those countries never belonged to China, and they will still believe that.

    the unknown chinese history is the eight-nation alliance, they attacked the then Qing China during the 1900s, the countries of alliance are: Japan, Italy,Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Russia, England, and US, they further divided China’s land into what we see today, Mongolia had an inner and outer, which all used to belonged to China

  38. Koreansentry says:

    Chinese are expecting respects well then start acting like real respectful people, this kind of childish over reaction will make Chinese look bad from Korean POV. According to my sisters and Korean girlfriends, Chinese men are bunch of losers that’s why they spend their minds over online chats. After one night sleep all this become nothing tangible to gain from. I actually had a good laugh at this article and will have second thought of Chinese males. I wonder why so many Chinese boys can’t get laid for free. IMO, Chinese keyboard warriors should start dating with real girls.

  39. Mark says:

    Plenty of sad suckers here to recruit for a next Jihad against whoever frustrates them.

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  47. Typo says:

    Hehe, 69.

  48. masterfu says:

    this is the original text: “69圣战“

    ”圣“ means holy, sacred, saint

    “战” means war

    this incident translated to english is holy war, saint war, or jihad, jihad original intended use before the era of terrorism is a war fought in god’s will

    which, we can say, chinese extremist are against Hahanzu in god’s will, too many brain damaged chinese today that thinks they are so hood, im chinese, but im smart enough to understand that is bad to destroy international websites

  49. csnmf says:

    I think K-pop groups as well as solo singers are far in front of anything in the West in terms of dance. Every act must be able to dance whereas if you look to western performers particuarly on the male side only a few names spring to mind.

  50. Devin says:

    masterfu:I’ve show you much respect. I got a question , what have you done to WOW tieba ? Don’t tell me you’ve hung Trojans on WOW site. Lol

    I know others may think 6.9 Jihad as a rude action . But all of you , tell me WHAT IF this happened in your own country ? I mean THIS :
    ———————————————————-
    They started yelling and beating the armed police and volunteers who tried to maintain order. Some spitted at the armed police, one person even took off her clothes and accused the armed police of sexual harassment
    ———————————————————–
    I want to you know ALL OF YOU , this kind of POLICE , they had just come back from Yushu earthquake area , then joined the world expo security job. Tell me what they did made those fans attacked them , they were attacked by the people THEY WERE PROTECTING. These Koren starts still said , it chinese fault ~! MY ASS~! They said there were thousands of tickets would be offered . But in the end they’ve just give hundreds of .Why we hate Korea so much ?
    Check this http://webbbs.oeeee.com/articlepic/2008/5/27/200852714563655286.jpg

  51. Devin says:

    masterfu:I’ve show you much respect. I got a question , what have you done to WOW tieba ? Don’t tell me you’ve hung Trojans on WOW site. Lol

    I know others may think 6.9 Jihad as a rude action . But all of you , tell me WHAT IF this happened in your own country ? I mean THIS :
    ———————————————————-
    They started yelling and beating the armed police and volunteers who tried to maintain order. Some spitted at the armed police, one person even took off her clothes and accused the armed police of sexual harassment
    ———————————————————–
    I want to you know ALL OF YOU , this kind of POLICE , they had just come back from Yushu earthquake area , then joined the world expo security job. Tell me what they did made those fans attacked them , they were attacked by the people THEY WERE PROTECTING. These Koren starts still said , it chinese fault ~! MY ASS~! They said there were thousands of tickets would be offered . But in the end they’ve just give hundreds of .Why we hate Korea so much ?
    Check this http://webbbs.oeeee.com/articlepic/2008/5/27/200852714563655286.jpg

  52. Devin says:

    Why ???

  53. Devin says:

    K-starts is All right ? We just wanted to lead back these chinese crazy k-fans. There’s something wrong with their brain, they got ass-reamed by k-starts. All we do is want to save our own people. So , we use jahad.

    There are some videos on internet , about member of SJ , they said they’ve come across one earthquake area and Fell Happy. Im not makeing up these stuff and I have no need to.
    We attacked them , one gave those k-fans a waring , and also tell k-starts show us some respect. That’s all.
    I would like to respect them if they respect China at first~!

  54. Devin says:

    Sorry , it’s K-star , my bad 3>

  55. masterfu says:

    this is happening in my own country, im chinese you idiot

    and imagine this: if this never happened, what would you WoWers would do hm? play more WoW? sitting in front of the computer continue to 寂你的寞 and 悲你们的剧? and continue to be jealous of other non-netizens who have a life?

    i have something against the WoW tieba is because this so called 69 jihad was started there. you people at WoW never cared about your own motherland until this happened, it’s like you all suddenly want to feel epic and want to do something big, and make a show out of nothing.

    i also tell you, something like this can be easily taken care of by our government, that is why we are COMMUNIST, you all are forgetting what happened in Tiananmen Square back in the 1980s, people want a democratic reform, then the government came in and silenced the protest, what happened at the World Expo is a similar event, they don’t need you guy’s help.

    and now you guys could be the target of our own government for disturbing world peace and internet peace, citizens might hate the koreans, but not the government, because chinese politicians signed treaties with every other country on agreement to keeping world peace, you guys at WoW tieba just disturbed it

    mark my words, what you guys done on that day will come back and bite you, as the old saying goes: what goes around comes around.

  56. masterfu says:

    sometimes, i wish an alternate universe of chinese people all being friendly to North and South Koreans, and Japan never invaded anyone so they were not hated, the whole Asia is in peace

    but that never happened, different people made different mistakes and created wrongful impressions to each other and thus created a thing called hatred

  57. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    dont use a computer translator, it will mess up the text meaning

  58. lordofreimes says:

    C-Pop encompasses all ‘chinese’ pop. There is no distinguishing because all three areas listen to each other and operate pretty much as one marketable area (though taiwan and HK both have their own pop music charts). Then it just divides into canto-pop and mando-pop since mandos normally can’t understand canto.
    I think the view is pretty much across the board.

  59. Sin says:

    Dude how can you say Chinese uniquely exhibit a mob mentality? Thats just fucking lol. I guess Chinese people are the only people that have mob mentality durrrrr.

    But isn’t it funny since South Korea is the place where they went absolutely apeshit over lee myung bak’s american beef deals. It was a massive fuckfest of thousands of people vs riot police over fucking steak. And you know them South Korean riot police put all their skill points into shield bash.

    My point is that EVERYONE from EVERY country does all that shit. If we were just going to pretend one country is the only one with bad acts I could act like a little bitch and say “OHHHHHH South Korea went fucking crazy over beef. This is unique to Koreans a la Korean characteristics. They just go fucking nuts from unsatisfactory beef arrangements. Typical of Koreans I suppose. Jesus fuck ,it’s the 21st century and still the Koreans can’t handle hearty meat.”

  60. Sin says:

    Lolol they felt so strongly about the beef it became a royal rumble last man standing between team protestor and team riot police. Plus I’m pretty sure that was the only time the American flag was burned over beef.

    BUT you’re telling me Koreans have never display mob mentality or rude public behaviours EVER? I suppose only Chinese people do that shit? I see, so everywhere else in the world people have always just sat down to work out their problems all the time. So every public disturbance in the world for the last 5000 years ranging from from national protests to sport and concert riots were caused only by Chinese people. I see.

    –“Typical of Koreans I suppose. Jesus fuck ,it’s the 21st century and still the Koreans can’t handle hearty meat.”
    This statement shows just how well you know what you are talking about.–

    ^ It was a parody of you. It really does give off that “durr I’m not an idiot harhar” vibe doesn’t it?

  61. back at korean guy says:

    korean guys commenting on china hush are scary crazy, they can eat jugs of kim chi while leaving lame comments…..

  62. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    looks like you are already getting flamed by those “jihadists”

    i think it’s best to leave you with them, it’s the only way to let both sides to see each other’s ideas and views

    you will also learn the true art of being a “keyboard warrior” so you can argue with US netizens, who are a 1000 times worse then the “jihadists”. consider this boot camp for your magical keyboard warrior life on the internet.

    have fun debating!! :D

  63. Sin says:

    If it was normal criticism then that’s fine. I’m responding to what I perceive as unfair criticism and huge one sided generalizations.

  64. Sin says:

    So says the guy who accuses the Chinese having no morals due to behaviours that exist worldwide, even in his native Korea. Lol I can’t change your fucked up opinions. I can point out how misinformed they are. Where you get the impression that the Japanese and Koreans somehow have too much self respect compared to Chinese is just beyond logic. How money are you willing to lose on that?

    Just a look at some examples:
    Korea: You’re own yonhap news reported a while back about a survey done by the Korean institute of criminology revealed that more than 1/3 of 1500 Koreans surveyed believed that violence was more better than verbal negotiation or law.

    Japan: Tokyo’s red light district is pretty funny. For 1 example, there’s some shop where you pay to only lick ass. The way it’s set up is there is a wall with ass shaped holes for the girls to put their junk through while guys pay by the clock. You got options of what to have in the ass such as shit, fruity candy, fish, or whatever rocks your boat. As hilarious as this sounds, I don’t think it really entitles TOO MUCH self respect, as you so douchebaggingly put it.

    Does this mean Japan and Korea should be ashamed of themselves and that they are not civilized countries? No. Not even close. Every country’s got fucked up problems or things they wouldn’t want alot of people to know about, but that should not represent the entire overall value of each nation. So why is China any different? This is what you call unfair criticism. As I see it, you sir, are a complete fucking tool for saying the Chinese people for are uncivilized or lack in morals.

  65. Sin says:

    tl;dr
    In short. 1/3 Koreans who love to resort to violence does not make Korea a barbaric country. Japanese ass licking shops and the Fish Ass video shouldn’t make them known as shameful nation. Chinese fans bumrushing a Super Junior concert doesn’t mean the country lacks morals. But one fool saying these things and other similar incidents define the national identity of people, is definately a retard.

  66. Vasopressin2010 says:

    If 1/3 of Koreans advocated violence over negotiations, then it must be something like 2.99999999/3 for China.

    You are right in one regard though. All countries have problems. But at least those countries are mature enough to admit their flaws and place the blame on themselves. What makes China so unique as well as unpopular with Koreans is the fact that China seems to blame everyone but themselves for their pitifully childish behaviors.

    Its not Korea’s fault that Chinese women go gaga over Korean boybands and then violently attack people(police officers in this case) like spoiled brats would when they dont get their way. Nor is it Korea’s fault that China has an abundance of internet losers who the need to attack Korean sites because Chinese people misbehaved. Nor is it Korea’s fault that China currently has a reputation for being filled with liars(Koreans are stealing Confucius). Quit blaming Korea for all your social ills. And please quite accusing Koreans of false allegations.

  67. Sin says:

    It’s a big stretch to say the other countries always admit their flaws and don’t point the fingers at anyone else when shit goes sour. There seems to be a blind eye turned turned against the very same things that went on in those countries, but the Chinese get all the labels such as barbaric or immature slapped on.

  68. Sin says:

    I’m not saying those Chinese fans aren’t to blame for this incident. A few punk kids on the internet blame it on the Koreans, but all Chinese people get branded as childish? That’s retarded. Likewise if it was the other way around, and it was a few Koreans causing trouble, it would be stupid to say Koreans are childish.

    This is all I’m saying.

  69. Sin says:

    I never justified anything. How many times did I say nobody condones what happened? You’re not even arguing for anything anymore you’re just venting bullshit. The ass licking was one example to show explain to you that every country’s got things they aren’t proud to display to the world, not to mention it really isn’t something that supports your statement that one country has more self respect than the other. No shit, ass licking isn’t moral that was the point. You took a piss and completely missed it.

    Without twisting the words I wrote, what did you say that actually refutes my points? You can’t say anything without making some anti-Chinese tirade to make yourself feel good. I’ll admit it was crude of me to call you douchebag (hahaha), but other then that, what was false about what I said? If you wanna argue about this seriously don’t bring in your own personal biases.

  70. Sin says:

    Look man to each their own. You got your views I got mine. We’ve argued quite alot and neither of us can convince each other otherwise. You came on to diss China for things I felt were unfair and unwarranted so I responded. Obviously I’m biased towards China, but I tried to see from both perspectives and throughout the whole thing, I never dissed Korea. Anyways you’re right lets kill this shitty argument and call it a day. You can have last word if you want.

  71. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    looks like you are not just a korean, but also a troll, as other USA netizens alway says: “go back to 4chan” the outside world on the internet does not welcome you

    and are you a Korean scholar? what will make me think that you are one? and alternatively, what will make you think that i am a Chinese scholar, do you even know what does Asian scholar studies at their university?

    answer: they study a lot more then just Asian history

  72. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    and no when other people refer to asia and asians, they will think that it’s japanese/chinese/koreans people being crazy and smart, so in other country’s mind, asians are smart and crazy and “asian-ish”

    this showed how you are similar to those “jihadists”, you understands too little about the world outside of asia.

  73. back at back at korean guy says:

    who wanna eat those “kim chi” cr@ps? at least i never did. for me, there’s only Sicuan Paocai / its copycats.

  74. Koreansentry says:

    Well then this article just revealed Chinese insecurity. Welldone to these nutcases now China gets another thumbs down.

  75. reafewa gafewaf says:

    Can you please remove yourself from the gene pool? Preferably in the most painful and agonizing way possible? Retard

    Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a
    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a
    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach
    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped
    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you
    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,
    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

    Shut the fuck up faggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut
    to ribbons, and your throat slit

  76. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    you are not making any sense…

    chinese people refer to themselves as “chinese” rather then Asians, and they have a more patriotic tone when doing so, because they did not get the infomation from source, they got it from discoveries from China’s past. what every single chinese said about China is true because historic records said so, history can’t lie, and that why it should be in this mix

    and Koreans on the other hand, see themselves as a “proud race”, that is true until the beginning of the 21th century, somehow Koreans had adopted a false historic timeline and taught them in school, so now everyone in South Korea had this wrong understanding of what the true history is like. I already comfirmed this with my Korean friends in my High School in US, they knew that South Korean’s education system were wrong so they came to US and dropped South Korea’s bullshit schooling

  77. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    oh there you go again with your sentence by sentence arguments

    go ahead, say whatever you want, i am a troll and im proud of it, before this incident happened i was trolling on youtube, for straight 4 years, and i never got bored of it. i think it was a fun thing to do on the internet whenever im bored and want to kill some time, and best of all, i can let my anger out without getting harmed, in the end, some of those people i had an argument with became my friends on youtube, it was also a good way to see other people’s ideas and start a debate about it.

    just remember this: it’s ok to have an argument with me because i generally don’t care, but be careful when you are arguing with those “jihadist” because they are already determined to hate the South Koreans no matter how you try to talk sense into them, and alert your fellow korean friends, don’t try to group attack chinese websites for revenge, that will only get the “jihadist” more angry and they will hate South Koreans even more, then i guess this “jihad” will go on forever until the world’s end.

  78. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    umm yea then why are you arguring with me about this when you dont believe chinese people. im chinese so you dont have to believe me either, which also means to stop arguing with me cause we dont have the information to go on, and you just wasted your time typing all those message trying to get to a reasonable argument, so did i

  79. masterfu (赵赋尧) says:

    you just got into the endless cycle trap

    you do not know the true side of revenge, the more you do it, the deeper it gets, if korean people attacked back to chinese websites, chinese will counter attack, and so on etc, it will never end unless someone stop

    and i think you are a little too young for trolling on the internet, trolling will never make any sense because the other person will always came up with an argument.

    what you said: “and you putting words in my mouth”

    trolling means starting arguments and followed by a neverending flaming war, i say something and you say something back, because if you think my argument dont make any sense, then i think your argument dont make any sense either, this is how “keyboard warrior” plays.

    nice try, but if you want to argue with me, you still got a long way to go, i had already been trolling on youtube for 4 years and counting.

  80. Koreansentry says:

    masterfu, please note Koreans don’t like arguing with people who doesn’t listen anyway. Your Chinese nutcases started this so called Holly war against to anything do with Korean, not us. Koreans don’t trust Chinese because of this kind of behavior not that we don’t believe, yeah there’s even Korean nutcases too but they’re very few in numbers compared to online Chinese communities. I hope young Chinese generation get mature soon, because they need to know that repeated lies can become true and when it does then it’s a disaster for good Chinese people out there, because “Wolf cry boy” effect will start ruin Chinese image in global community.

  81. Koreansentry says:

    Sin, you’re opinion will not change the world and Korean opinions. The fact here is there are Chinese nutcases out there believes repeated lies are truth. I’m actually sick of reading about some Chinese claims on how Koreans should do or do not. Why do you care about Koreans on what they’ve got on their minds?

    It’s always better to change yourself first before expecting others to change, if they don’t then for get about them, why waste your energy and time on nothing? All this accusations about how Koreans are stealing Chinese cultural stuffs are all fabricated lies anyways. Koreans have done nothing wrong to China and its people.

  82. Sin says:

    Yo
    you completely missed the entire point of what I said.

  83. masterfu(赵赋尧) says:

    im excluded from involving in this, but now im going in for the kill by creating my UIA.

    i’ll use it to defeat whoever stand in the way of internet peace, this Holy War is an example.

    so what does that mean? im declearing war on both the jihadists and SJ fans, with SM included, im doing what the jihadist is doing plus going up against the jihad alliance. it looks like im doing the same thing, but it’s actually not, it’s called fighting fire with fire. eventually both side will learn from a real chinese patriot.

    if you guys still dont know who is wrong, i’ll clear thing up for you guys.
    1. the root of this problem, is SM, because they lied about the tickets, causing many die hard SJ fans waiting

    2. the SJ fans, from the way the acted toward the armed police, why creating such a scene anyway? (btw, we chinese people respect the armed police, just like americans respect their National Guard)

    3. whoever is involved in the jihad, this clearly is an act of cyber warfare, UIA’s objective is to eliminate those who are conducting cyber warfare and protect internet peace

    you guys probably already know UIA’s targeted websites from the three enemy i listed above. so i won’t spit it out to keeping it secert leaving those idiots who dont know where im talking guessing

    and you, as a korean, are welcome to join UIA aka the world cyber army allience, but if you still gonna say SM have nothing to blame for, then you will be a target of elimination. or you have a choice to stay out of this matter and never bother it again

  84. STFU Kimchi says:

    koreans gtfo of china.
    well done, it just proves that koreans are pos liars.

  85. reafewa gafewaf says:

    Can you please remove yourself from the gene pool? Preferably in the most painful and agonizing way possible? Retard

    Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a
    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a
    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach
    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped
    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you
    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,
    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

    Shut the fuck up f aggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut
    to ribbons, and your throat slit.

  86. reafewa gafewaf says:

    Can you please remove yourself from the gene pool? Preferably in the most painful and agonizing way possible? Retard

    Die painfully okay? Prefearbly by getting crushed to death in a
    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a
    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach
    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped
    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you
    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,
    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot.

    Shut the fuck up faggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut
    to ribbons, and your throat slit.

  87. reafewa gafewaf says:

    Can you please remove yourself from the gene pool? Preferably in the most painful and agonizing way possible? Retard

    Die painfully okay? Preferably by getting crushed to death in a
    garbage compactor, by getting your face cut to ribbons with a
    pocketknife, your head cracked open with a baseball bat, your stomach
    sliced open and your entrails spilled out, and your eyeballs ripped
    out of their sockets. Fucking bitch

    I really hope that you get curb-stomped. It’d be hilarious to see you
    begging for help, and then someone stomps on the back of your head,
    leaving you to die in horrible, agonizing pain. Faggot

    Shut the fuck up faggot, before you get your face bashed in and cut
    to ribbons, and your throat slit

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